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The world's population may have recently topped 8 billion for the first time, but where the worries were once about the world becoming too crowded, now the concern is about a drop in global fertility rates.

There are very real fears that a shrinking, ageing population could be catastrophic for the global economy and its healthcare systems. But some experts argue that there might in fact be an upside to population decline – especially when it comes to the earth's natural resources.

In this episode of The Agenda, Juliet Mann speaks to...

• Stephen J Shaw, data scientist, demographer and director of the documentary Birthgap - Childless World

• Peter Elwin - Director of Fixed Income & Head of Food & Land Use Programme at Planet Tracker

• Haleh Nazeri, Longevity Economy lead at the World Economic Forum

• Dr Jennifer Sciubba - demographics expert and author of the book 8 billion and counting: How sex, death and migration shape our world.